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I can't see anybody sending a former president to jail. It hasn't happened before and I don't think Trump will be an exception.
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Trump is not going anywhere near a jail. But now that the bigwigs in the FBI are going to have to justify their apparently criminal conduct over lying about the Hunter Biden laptop in front of the House Judiciary committee , I can't say the same thing for Joe Biden or Hunter Biden. The evidence is all there. Joe Biden has been running an influence peddling racket for year with his mo-ron of a son and they can't hide that clear criminal behaviour any more. And the bigwigs in the FBI not only knew about it, they will almost certainly face criminal charges themselves over suppressing evidence to prevent a criminal prosecution. Add violating every US citizens 1st Amendment rights by fabricating a monstrous lie, that the laptop was :Russian disinformation in order to influence the outcome of an election, and the FBI bigwigs are very deep in the poo. Not even Merrick Garland and his politically partisan US Justice Department can save the Deep State criminals this time.
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Trump will be arrested this week. How wrong you geniuses are.
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The more important argument is if he will answer to United States Constitutional Rights violations by participating in a Texas malpractice of law. It is an Armed Service jurisdictional issue as states have passed laws which might obstruct justice in this matter. It is time to move the staged argument of abortion to the conclusion of questions regarding United States Constitutional Right it has been legally exploited for too long.
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As much as I hate Trump, he likely will not be arrested. One, indictment =/= arrest, it just means you have to go to court to defend yourself against a criminal charge. Two, it's likely just a false statement from Trump (he's the one who says he'll be indicted) to rile up his base to form another riot. Just the idea of him getting indicted in the first place would bring even more chaos within the U.S. than ever before. We already have threats of execution on Democratic leaders if Trump does get indicted.
What I'm essentially saying here is: to preserve the U.S., you have to keep the most controversial politician in U.S. history clean.
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The charge is not the paying of hush money. The crime is falsifying business records of the Trump Organization.
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Mhm. How wrong we were. Oh no wait, we weren't wrong.
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Well yes I know but it still a mounts to the same thing really because the payment details in the a count isn't going to read 10000 bucks for banging the crap out that horse mouth bich is it. So then what the countant does is water down the entry to read like disbursement for the entertainment of the ceo. And then the democrats jump on it and say wow hush money lets do him just like the same thing when the republicans tried to do Clinton. Clinton just said I did not have sex with that women and then when they drilled in him he said oh well it depends on how you define sex. Where as Trump just said nothing so in the end it depends what side that your toast is butted because is making up lies better than saying nothing.
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What now, geniuses?
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What now is you should take some time to learn the difference between the words arrested, prison and indicted.
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Tell us more about that.
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Trump is expected to be arraigned next Tuesday.
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Wanna change your minds?
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According to a 2018 study by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 68% of people indicted for a felony were convicted.
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What's your prediction?
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If you put Trump in prison you risk starting a civil war. He's the leader of a heavily armed cult with 70 million members.
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Don't give me that absolute crap. Bush and Cheney's crimes killed close to a million people, and you're talking about a hush payment to a porn star.
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While Trump's arrest looks ever more likely with the indictment, I personally won't think it will lead to jail time.
I think the case focusing on around 130,000$ paid to Stormy Daniels(even before Trump was president) is rather weak legally speaking. They could've focused on something more serious, such as tax fraud. Why they chose this specific example is beyond me.
However, I believe Trump as a person is rather disgusting(like many other politicians and celebrities), but this whole legal case looks more like a character witch hunt, rather than something more substantive legalistically.
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Solicitation to commit election fraud: Trump is alleged to have pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" enough votes to overturn the results of the 2020 election in Georgia.
Obstruction of justice: Trump is alleged to have interfered with the Georgia election investigation by trying to pressure witnesses and by making false statements.
Conspiracy to commit election fraud: Trump is alleged to have conspired with others to illegally interfere with the 2020 election in Georgia.
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Your impossible double standards expose you as a complete imbecile who under no circumstances should ever be taken seriously.
Noting the war crimes now known and admitted to by George Bush and Cheney, George Washington University's highly-respected constitutional law professor Jonathon Turley asked MSNBC's Keith Olbermann last week: "If someone commits a crime and everyone's around to see it and does nothing, is it still a crime?"
The discussion came in the wake of a new bipartisan US Senate report (pdf) that found that Bush was responsible for approving torture and abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and Cheney's admission during an ABC interview that he helped to approve torture and abuse in interrogations.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/dec/22/george-bush--cheney-torture
"I think things that they authorized probably fall within the area of war crimes. Whether that would be productive or not, I think, is a discussion we could all have. But we have established procedures now with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where people who take actions as serving presidents or prime ministers of countries have been indicted and have been tried. So the precedent is there to do that sort of thing. And I think we need to ask ourselves whether or not it would be useful to do that in the case of members of the Bush administration. It's clear that things that the Bush administration did — in my mind, at least, it's clear that some of the things they did were war crimes."
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a35397/bush-cheney-war-crimes/
In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were... found guilty of war crimes. Bush, Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia...At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment. Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a35397/bush-cheney-war-crimes/
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"Nomenclature" is committing the "What About" fallacy instead of providing evidence for his claims about Trump. He should stay focused on Trump - the topic of this debate. And, as usual, he resorts to personal childish insults.
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You are committing the "raging double standards" fallacy, where you gleefully ignore extremely serious war crimes and the sanction of torture by a sitting US president, but feign outrage over a hush payment to a porn star. Your transparent refusal to apply the law equally to all people exposes you as a disingenuous, self-interested troll, which quite ironically is exactly what Trump himself is.
If I shoot a shopkeeper in the face and the police come and arrest the kid next to me who was stealing sweets, but ignore the cold-blooded murder I just committed, then ordering me to "stay focused" on the sweet thief is not going to rationalise that absurd situation any more than telling me to "stay focused" on Trump is going to rationalise the fact that Bush and Cheney are completely free men.
You have no credibility as a human being.
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Are we gonna be tricked by this juvenile trick? Not me.
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"Nomenclature" seems to value: Aggressiveness, dishonesty, disrespect, close-mindedness, unfairness, arrogance, intolerance, cunning, and dominance.
Good debaters value:
Intellectual honesty: A good debater should be honest in their arguments and avoid making false claims or misrepresenting their opponent's position.
Respect: A good debater should respect their opponent's right to have a different opinion and should avoid personal attacks.
Open-mindedness: A good debater should be open to considering new information and perspectives, even if they disagree with them.
Fairness: A good debater should play by the rules of the debate and avoid trying to win by unfair means.
Humility: A good debater should be willing to admit when they are wrong and learn from their mistakes.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/31/trump-indictment-what-to-know/1afe3a46-cf7f-11ed-8907-156f0390d081_story.html
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The thing you overlooked is that most Democrats are comparably insane to the Republicans, just in different ways.
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There's no trick. You're objectively a self-interested hypocrite who is allowing personal bias to outweigh historical reality. There is not one iota of logic in letting Bush walk away into the sunset but relentlessly pursuing Trump for much lesser crimes. This bizarre lack of consistency in the US judicial system only empowers Trump to pursue the argument that he is the victim of a witch hunt, and your refusal to acknowledge I have a point only discredits you as a lowbrow imbecile who wants to abuse the notion of fallacy. It is not a fallacy to draw public attention to an overt double standard.
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"Nomenclature" still tries to distract from the topic of the debate.
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Why don't you tell us how many died in Iraq as a result of Trump's hush money payment to Stormy Daniels?
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I was replying to and making fun of my own comment of me saying Trump likely wouldn't get indicted, my comment wasn't about the insanity of political parties.
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I'm fully aware. I was trying to explain that your comment was a reasonable assumption to make, but that the people targeting Trump are equally as corrupt as he is.
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He knows Trump will die in prison.
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So how many died in Iraq because of Trump's crimes? Was it more or less than the million who died because of Bush's crimes?
Your raging double standards are why Trump has so many supporters in the first place.
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Trump will die in prison in 2039.
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You seem joyful about that. You strike me as the sort of person who finds great enjoyment in the suffering of others.
What was your childhood like? Any bullying in adolescence?
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He won't disclose it...Very suspicious.
He might be ashamed of his country's history of violence or oppression. He might be ashamed of his country's current political or social problems. He might be ashamed of his country's treatment of certain groups of people, such as immigrants, minorities, or women.
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We're discussing Trump's prison death, not Biden.
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Yeah, Jules. Biden is a world class racketeer the head of an obviously corrupt and out of control US government which rigs elections and controls free speech. But you don't want to examine that. No, it is just Trump Derangement Syndrome all the way. Don't look at the real problem which is staring you and your leftard friends right in the face. It is just get Trump, get Trump, Get Trump, for you. You must be a civil servant who dreams of a government {:"OF the public service, BY the public service, and FOR the public service."
Used to be that lefties like you used to attack at the deep state who murdered President Kennedy and who manipulated politics to keep themselves in absolute power. Now, you leftards think that allying yourselves with the deep state is the way to go.
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